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Kimberly OLeary

Tonya Krause-Phelan, born 1962; being an "other" inspired her to help outsiders


2024 turned out to be a much more challenging year for me than I realized it would be. Between planning our daughter's wedding, enjoying all the festivities, and taking a massive road trip across the Western U.S.A., I just couldn't find the quiet space I needed to edit interviews. But, now we're settled in Asia, and I finally have had the time to begin editing interviews again.


It was a joy to listen to my interview with Tonya Krause-Phelan. Tonya was a colleague of mine at Cooley Law School, someone I greatly admired. Even though we worked together for many years, I learned so much about her. You can hear her interview here:



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